No, Dave, you insisted on interrupting me and shouting me down when I tried to raise these issues in the BOFs - doing your best to prevent me from making my case. And you're not just one voice, you are one of the document authors. As for rough consensus, you seem to forget that there are two necessary conditions for standardization - one is rough consensus, the other is technical soundness. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf