--On Thursday, 25 May, 2006 20:27 -0500 "Stephen Hayes (TX/EUS)" <stephen.hayes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > After some consideration, I can understand how the current > text in mankin-pub-req would be discouraging to the technical > publisher. > > If we changed "refrain from" to "exercise restraint in making" > in requirements POSTEDIT-3 and POSTEDIT-4, I assume this would > solve Joel and John's concerns. Yes, from my standpoint, that would be a very significant improvement. > The question now is if I will get shot from the "keep your > grubby hands off my document" crowd. One hopes not. But that question is, of course, intimately related to whether there is actually a plausible pre-approval editing process (not just a suggestion process to editors, but actual definitive editing). If there is no such process, then, for some very significant number of cases "keep your hands off my document" would be equivalent to "publish ungrammatical, badly-written and badly-organized trash". And I don't think anyone really wants that. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf