RE: [dean@xxxxxxx: Mismanagement of the DNSOP list]

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>> ----- Forwarded message from Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx> -----
>>
>> FYI: I am being threatened for posting operationally relevant
>> criticism of
>> mis-operation of the F DNS Root server on the DNSOP list.
>>
>> --
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:55:20 -0700
>> From: David Kessens <david.kessens@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx>
>> Cc: David Meyer <dmm@xxxxxxxxx>, Rob Austein <sra@xxxxxxxxxx>,
>>      Bert Wijnen <bwijnen@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [david.kessens@xxxxxxxxx: Re: [dnsop] An attack that
>> DNSSEC would
>>     have defended against...]
>>
>>
>> Dean,
>>
>> To avoid any misunderstandings: My message is an official warning to
>> you that I will propose to the IESG to remove your posting privileges
>> if I see one more abusive mail from you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David Kessens
>> ---
>
> Since I have been informed that this actually is the forum for this
> discussion according to RFC 3683 I will ask for a clarification from David
> on this whole thing.
>
> David, the way it reads to me is you warned Dean you would go to the IESG
> if
> he continued what you felt were abusive posts.  Dean in turn informed the
> IESG of your warning because he felt it was unwarranted and being used by
> you as a tool to silence someone who had a differing technical opinion.
> You
> then used his complaint to the IESG as an instance of another abusive post
> and requested to have his privileges removed.  Is that basically correct?
> If so are you telling me that I have to be afraid of ever voicing a
> complaint or problem to the IESG because an AD can use that as a reason
> for
> retribution?  This to me transcends Dean and whether or not his posts are
> abusive - I'd like to know (maybe someone else has the answer) if I can be
> penalized for lodging a complaint with the IESG.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
>
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The way I see it - the answer is, under normal circumstances NO.  However,
in the history of the IETF there have been several cases where people go
out of their way to send unwarranted complaints to various ADs/IESG/IAB
with unwarranted claims.

If you were to do this more than a few times...  Well, lets just say
crying wolf once isn't a foul - but after a couple more times the town
won't come out to see if there is a wolf in the pasture.

Bill


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