> From: bill@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bill@xxxxxxxxxx] > >> ----- Forwarded message from Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx> ----- > >> > >> FYI: I am being threatened for posting operationally relevant > >> criticism of mis-operation of the F DNS Root server on the DNSOP > >> list. > >> > >> -- > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:55:20 -0700 > >> From: David Kessens <david.kessens@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: Dean Anderson <dean@xxxxxxx> > >> Cc: David Meyer <dmm@xxxxxxxxx>, Rob Austein <sra@xxxxxxxxxx>, > >> Bert Wijnen <bwijnen@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> Subject: [david.kessens@xxxxxxxxx: Re: [dnsop] An attack > that DNSSEC > >> would > >> have defended against...] > >> > >> > >> Dean, > >> > >> To avoid any misunderstandings: My message is an official > warning to > >> you that I will propose to the IESG to remove your posting > privileges > >> if I see one more abusive mail from you. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> David Kessens > >> --- > > > > Since I have been informed that this actually is the forum for this > > discussion according to RFC 3683 I will ask for a > clarification from > > David on this whole thing. > > > > David, the way it reads to me is you warned Dean you would > go to the > > IESG if he continued what you felt were abusive posts. > Dean in turn > > informed the IESG of your warning because he felt it was > unwarranted > > and being used by you as a tool to silence someone who had > a differing > > technical opinion. > > You > > then used his complaint to the IESG as an instance of > another abusive > > post and requested to have his privileges removed. Is that > basically correct? > > If so are you telling me that I have to be afraid of ever voicing a > > complaint or problem to the IESG because an AD can use that as a > > reason for retribution? This to me transcends Dean and > whether or not > > his posts are abusive - I'd like to know (maybe someone > else has the > > answer) if I can be penalized for lodging a complaint with the IESG. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > The way I see it - the answer is, under normal circumstances > NO. However, in the history of the IETF there have been > several cases where people go out of their way to send > unwarranted complaints to various ADs/IESG/IAB with > unwarranted claims. > > If you were to do this more than a few times... Well, lets > just say crying wolf once isn't a foul - but after a couple > more times the town won't come out to see if there is a wolf > in the pasture. > Does that mean that if an AD's proposal to remove someone's posting privileges fails to garner the required support that it was the AD who cried wolf? And if not how come? nick _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf