On 09/15/2005 17:09 PM, Paul Hoffman allegedly wrote: > At 1:50 PM -0700 9/15/05, Michael Thomas wrote: >> Which is pretty much the elephant in the room, I'd say. How >> much of the net traffic these days is, essentially, not in >> any way standardized, and in fact probably considers ietf >> old and in the way? > > Not sure why this is an elephant; who cares? I have seen numbers that > show that a huge percentage of traffic is P2P of various flavors, but I > haven't seen anyone saying that this is having any negative effects. The metaphor I'm trying to use this week is that the IETF is landscapers and we provide a fertile, beautiful area for people to go wild and create excellent gardens. What you're describing is not a bug, it's feature. It means the IETF have done their job. If there were interoperability problems in the fundamental and/or widespread technologies being used in the Internet, then there would be a problem (we're working on those). Congratulations. swb _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf