On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > In message <Pine.LNX.4.62.0509081359170.17352@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "william(at)elan > .net" writes: > > > >On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > >>> [Note: Not very long ago, I argued persuasively to a large and broad > >>> movement within the IETF seeking to have the IETF adopt an anti-patent > >>> position. > >> > >> my memory is slipping worse that I thought. > >> i don't recall seeing evidence of the community's being persuaded. > > It wasn't -- he's wrong. I see: I'm wrong, but you didn't see the original note. How thorough of you. Sounds more like: "Crocker is right, no matter what". > Wearing my IPR WG hat and citing a product of that WG... Maybe if you are going to make official statements, you could do a more thorough job of consulting both the statements being made, and your RFCs. I just cited RFC3979, a more recent product of your working group. But nothing I said was in contradiction to RFC3669, either. Not that you bothered to read it before commenting. [Didn't I just say something about fabrication of statements and professional dishonesty...] --Dean -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf