Margaret Choose the right chairperson (or having chosen one, train them). I have heard you speak of the roles of the WG chair (and of the editors of I-Ds) and think your ideas are absolutely right. The WGs that I find less effective are those where the chairs, for all their undoubted engineering skills, are less effective at the role of chairmanship of meetings, a role which starts with the agenda, ends with the minutes, and involves making the most effective use of the 'face time' in between. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Wasserman" <margaret@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: improving WG operation > > >People can and do use powerpoint slides in many ways. Some folks will rework > >text in real-time, based on interaction with the participants. Some folks > >just talk their slides rather than actually engaging with the participants. > > > >A thing to keep in mind is that slides and the jabber activity can be > >incredibly helpful to folks for whom English not their native language. > > > >I think that, in fact, the issue is not powerpoint-vs-no-powerpoint. I think > >it is exactly and only the concern you raise: meetings need to be for working > >group interaction. If that is the clear goal and if the meeting is run with > >that goal enforced, then none of the trappings matter. > > I completely agree with this. And, I've been to plenty of > non-interactive lectures that didn't involve any slides. > > Dave, do you have any thoughts about how we can change the IETF > culture from presentation to interaction (with or without slides). > This is something that the IESG has been talking about, among others, > but I'm not sure that we've come up with any really concrete ways to > provoke/encourage this change. > > Margaret > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf