Re: iasa-bcp-01 - ISOC support

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Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
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Brian E Carpenter
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Subject: iasa-bcp-01 - ISOC support



7. ISOC Responsibilities for IASA

...

  Independence: The IASA should be financially and legally distinct
     from other ISOC activities.

Since it's a unit of ISOC, it can't be legally distinct. We have discussion elsewhere of the financial arrangements.
So I would reduce this sentence to


Independence: The IASA shall be distinct from other ISOC activities.


makes sense to me personally but also to me as co-editor. Speak up if you (anyone) do not agree, because I intend to make the change.


... IETF meeting fees shall be deposited
in a separate IETF-specific financial account and

used to fund the

IASA under the direction and oversight of the IAOC.

Any fees or

payments collected from IETF meeting sponsors should also be
deposited into this account. The IAD administers

this account and

uses it to fund the IASA in accordance with a budget

and policies

developed as described above.

This is all repetition of earlier stuff and should be deleted.



Not sure. It lists the ISOC responsibilities.
We have listed responsibilities of IAD, IAOC etc, and some of that
is also a repeat. I think the original authors (text is mainly
unchanged from the wasserman-bcp draft) were trying to make sure
that the ISOC responsibilities were listed in one place for easy
review by ISOC... not sure though.


Margaret/Leslie??

Yes.

:-)

I think Brian is right in saying this section now repeats a lot
of the material that has now been fleshed out more, and
more usefully, in earlier sections.  I think you are correct in
observing this section could/should capture ISOC's responsibilities.

So trimming this section down to say what the responsibilities are,
not how to implement them, makes sense to me.

Perhaps:

Independence: The IASA shall be distinct from other ISOC
activities.  ISOC will support the IASA through the mechanisms
specified in this document and its successors.


(The second line may seem redundant -- but I'm suggesting it to underscore the source of change control for the processes that govern IASA).




Support: ISOC may, from time to time, choose to transfer other funds into the IASA account to fund IETF administrative projects or to cover IETF meeting revenue shortfalls. There may also be cases
where ISOC chooses to loan money to the IASA to help with
temporary cash flow issues. These cases should be documented
carefully and tracked on both sides. ISOC will work to provide
the operational reserve for IASA functioning described above.

This is also repetition. Either delete it, or reduce it to a single sentence referring back to earlier text.



same answer as before.
reducing some of this text to reference to earlier text seems like
a good suggestion to me (personally). Have not concluded yet if
we really should do it.

Same comments from me as for the previous, and suggested text:


Support: ISOC will work with the IAD and IAOC to ensure appropriate financial support for the IASA, following the mechanisms described in this document and its successors.


My 0.02CDN.

Leslie.

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