Changed text as suggested by Leslie. I had re-send my request for inpout while on the plane. I have now seen both Leslies and Margarets responses. Thanks, Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Daigle [mailto:leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 14:41 > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > Cc: Brian E Carpenter; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: iasa-bcp-01 - ISOC support > > > Howdy, > > In-line... > > Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: > > Inline > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx > [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > >>Brian E Carpenter > >>Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:33 > >>To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > >>Subject: iasa-bcp-01 - ISOC support > >> > >> > >> > >>>7. ISOC Responsibilities for IASA > >> > >>... > >> > >>> Independence: The IASA should be financially and > legally distinct > >>> from other ISOC activities. > >> > >>Since it's a unit of ISOC, it can't be legally distinct. We > >>have discussion elsewhere of the financial arrangements. > >>So I would reduce this sentence to > >> > >> Independence: The IASA shall be distinct from other ISOC > >>activities. > >> > > > > makes sense to me personally but also to me as co-editor. > > Speak up if you (anyone) do not agree, because I intend > > to make the change. > > > > > >>> ... IETF meeting fees shall be deposited > >>> in a separate IETF-specific financial account and > >> > >>used to fund the > >> > >>> IASA under the direction and oversight of the IAOC. > >> > >>Any fees or > >> > >>> payments collected from IETF meeting sponsors should also be > >>> deposited into this account. The IAD administers > >> > >>this account and > >> > >>> uses it to fund the IASA in accordance with a budget > >> > >>and policies > >> > >>> developed as described above. > >> > >>This is all repetition of earlier stuff and should be deleted. > >> > > > > > > Not sure. It lists the ISOC responsibilities. > > We have listed responsibilities of IAD, IAOC etc, and some of that > > is also a repeat. I think the original authors (text is mainly > > unchanged from the wasserman-bcp draft) were trying to make sure > > that the ISOC responsibilities were listed in one place for easy > > review by ISOC... not sure though. > > > > Margaret/Leslie?? > > Yes. > > :-) > > I think Brian is right in saying this section now repeats a lot > of the material that has now been fleshed out more, and > more usefully, in earlier sections. I think you are correct in > observing this section could/should capture ISOC's responsibilities. > > So trimming this section down to say what the responsibilities are, > not how to implement them, makes sense to me. > > Perhaps: > > Independence: The IASA shall be distinct from other ISOC > activities. ISOC will support the IASA through the mechanisms > specified in this document and its successors. > > > (The second line may seem redundant -- but I'm suggesting it to > underscore the source of change control for the processes that > govern IASA). > > > > > > > > >>> Support: ISOC may, from time to time, choose to transfer > >>> other funds into the IASA account to fund IETF administrative > >>> projects or to cover IETF meeting revenue shortfalls. > There may > >>> also be cases > >>> where ISOC chooses to loan money to the IASA to help with > >>> temporary cash flow issues. These cases should be documented > >>> carefully and tracked on both sides. ISOC will work > to provide > >>> the operational reserve for IASA functioning described above. > >> > >>This is also repetition. Either delete it, or reduce it to a single > >>sentence referring back to earlier text. > >> > > > > > > same answer as before. > > reducing some of this text to reference to earlier text seems like > > a good suggestion to me (personally). Have not concluded yet if > > we really should do it. > > Same comments from me as for the previous, and suggested > text: > > > Support: ISOC will work with the IAD and IAOC to ensure appropriate > financial support for the IASA, following the mechanisms described > in this document and its successors. > > > My 0.02CDN. > > Leslie. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Reality: > Yours to discover." > -- ThinkingCat > Leslie Daigle > leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf