Re: Concerns about NomCom deadlines for community feedback

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Hi Benson,

On 18-Nov-24 02:20, Benson Muite wrote:
On 16/11/2024 9.34 pm, Salz, Rich wrote:
And no NomCom member can compare their experience with those of other NomComs, which
had for example like the ones i was in a totally different experience. So really
difficult to judge.

Except that the voting volunteers have often served on NomCom's before.  And the liaisons, too.

But yes, I agree, it will be difficult to judge.



Maybe it is helpful to update the guidelines? A proposal was made to
extend the term to two years:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rsalz-gih-nomcom-2years/

My expectation is that one year is actually reasonable.  However, the
main procedures to be followed should be specified in an RFC.

They are; there might be a consensus to change them, but that
can only be based on concrete proposals. For example, the current
procedure says that NomCom may request community feedback; we could
perhaps reach consensus that they MUST do so.

Details
of when to have meetings, and when to accept community feedback by
should be left to the NomCom itself as this gives it flexibility to
accommodate the members. There are some deadlines for when the NomCom
should have its work done by, and these should be in the guidelines.

That is in RFC 8713, sections 5.2-5.4, and Appendix D.

How
the voting is done should probably be specified,

I strongly disagree. Voting is probably the last resort anyway, but
the details should certainly not be decided in the abstract. (If they
were, I'd strongly support Condorcet voting.)

as well as guidelines
for what SHOULD be important considerations in filling positions.

Section 5.12 covers that pretty clearly.

RFC2119 gives very precise details for how NomCom members are chosen.

I think you have the wrong RFC.

RFC8713 is much more vague about how the NomCom should actually conduct
its work - there is much research into how organizations can effectively
make decisions which can feed into such a document to enable the NomCom
to work more effectively.. The RFC could be something that is updated by
each NomCom,

Huh? The only body that can update the rules is the community, via
due process for a BCP.

or each NomCom could write an experience report to pass on
what they believe is useful knowledge for future NomComs to have.

They do that today, but it doesn't appear to be a requirement in RFC 8713.
Regards
    Brian




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