Re: TELNET to HISTORIC Re: FTP

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If what you are doing involves a 3270, what you are doing is HISTORIC.

i was using a Commodore PET this weekend, I would not pretend that was anything other than HISTORIC.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 9:54 PM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) <lyndon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Everyone seems to be confusing TELNET with LOGIN.  You all need to
go back and read the RFC, which says in its introduction:

   The purpose of the TELNET Protocol is to provide a fairly general,
   bi-directional, eight-bit byte oriented communications facility.  Its
   primary goal is to allow a standard method of interfacing terminal
   devices and terminal-oriented processes to each other.  It is
   envisioned that the protocol may also be used for terminal-terminal
   communication ("linking") and process-process communication
   (distributed computation).

The term 'login' doesn't appear anywhere in that document.

TELNET implements a Network Virtual Terminal (NVT).  You can use
NVTs for a lot of things.  One of those things is to log in to a
remote server.  But that is far from the only thing it is used for.
In my house alone, telnet is the terminal I use to talk to my TV,
stereo, blu ray player, toaster, lighting control system, and
numerous embedded controllers I have built to control my ever growing
stack of radio transmitters and receivers.  Not one of those devices
asks me to 'login'.  The concept is completely alien to them.  I
don't need to 'authenticate' to my radio when I start banging out
morse code on the hand key, or push the front panel buttons, than I
do when I tickle it via telnet.  If you think you are going to
inflict SSH on my arduino controllers, you are utterly delusional.

Give me a call when SSH supports RFC2717, and can provide 3270
emulation.  (Yes, I use both.  All the time.)

I am seriously considering bringing forward at the upcoming plenary
a suggestion that we add a new RFC Status category:

                Eeewww! Old!!!

--lyndon

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