Re: mail is hard, IETF mail service outage planned for 120 0 UTC on 27 June 2024)

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On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 12:40 AM Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 6/29/24 18:37, John Levine wrote:

People from some of the largest mail systems in the world are active
in our mail working groups. Unfortunately, the WGs have not been a
productive place to get specs written due to endless arguments from
people who run a tiny linux server, or who ran a mail system in 1998
and don't think anything should change.

To be fair, there are also WG participants who have their own dated ideas of How Things Should Work, may have some vested interest in things continuing to work that way, and who will sabotage any discussion of possibility of doing things differently.


When the spam epidemic hit in the early '00s, I remember being told that we cannot possibly change the way email works because there are parts of Africa where store and forward email is achieved via bicycle.

Another problem that we repeatedly run into is 'that would take a decade to change' and so here we are 25 years later dealing with problems that could have been solved 15 years ago.

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