> On 29. Jun 2024, at 18:59, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It appears that Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> said: >> Fair enough - but the first thing is to know what the operational >> issues actually are, so that we have some idea how to fix them and >> which WG(s) might be involved. > > I don't think these are issues in which the IETF has useful expertise. > I also think that the kinds of technical changes that would be likely > to help would have backward compatibility problems that would cause a > great deal of heartburn here. Gathering the required operational expertise worked for v6ops and dnsops quite well - why shouldn’t it work for mail operations? > PS: It also doesn't help that running a mail system at scale is very > different from running a tiny one, and we have an awful lot of people > who overgeneralize from running tiny ones. I'm not sure whether the operational experience of tiny server operators is being discredited here. But operators of large scale mail services are welcome to bring their operational expertise into the discussion. Regards, Michael
