I think that its really hard for the community at large to have opinions, except for those with this undocumented anecdotal memory. My preoccupation is that a lot of these behavior isues develop and grow because of the impersonal nature of public mailing lists and are a lot easier to avoid and resolve with more human friendly forms of interactions. Still then, they do require fast and good reaction by others of course (WG-chairs for example). Conflict resolution (training) might actually not be a bad topic for a WG-chairs lunch. And thats broader and hence IMHO more useful than nitpicking on the respectively few extreme cases.. Cheers Toerless On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 12:45:38AM -0500, Adam Roach wrote: > On 6/12/2024 12:18 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > How common is it actually that "bad behavior" as discussed here > > actually negatively impacted the resulting technical output of the > > IETF ? > > > It is impossible to take inventory of the contributions that would have come > from people who have been pushed away from participating in the IETF by the > hostile actions of bad actors. My intuition is that the IETF has lost > significant input, and that its work output is suffering as a consequence. > > /a -- --- tte@xxxxxxxxx -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx