Hi Rich, Please see inline ... > -----Original Message----- > From: Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 26 April 2023 18:50 > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@xxxxxxxxx>; Joel Halpern > <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: NomCom selection Fwd: Notification for draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis- > 00.txt > > Does anyone disagree with the following? > - 8713 will not be updated in time to take effect for this NomCom's selection > process. Agreed. > - The text of 8713 specifies a process that, if followed, means a delay of at least > one week, and perhaps at least two weeks. I don't know, but I'm not sure whether it really matters. At least to me, what you did during the last cycle seemed like a pragmatic interpretation of 8713, based on the situation and time constraints. > > "Picking next one the list" is the process recommended by at least the last half- > dozen NomCom chairs, and followed by at least one of them (me); perhaps > more than one. Yes, this can be gamed. So what; security is about trade-offs > and saving time is more important for now. Sure. > > Some folks might want to review the errata at https://www.rfc- > editor.org/errata/rfc8713. I have no idea where discussions of that should > happen. > > It wasn't clear to me if Rob was proposing an interpretation of 8713, or > providing input to a revision. Providing input to a potential future revision. > > I had to disqualify one potential volunteer. They said yes, and then I was unable > to interact with them for the next three days (it was the weekend). One day is > not enough. And weekends aren't the same globally, once you allow for > timezones or countries that observe the classic Sabbath. Agreed. But I think this applies no matter how the next potential volunteer is chosen (e.g., is the next volunteer randomly chosen or are they already known). I'm arguing that with an update to the process document there doesn't appear to be any good reason why the next volunteer couldn't be fairly randomly chosen in a reasonable way in less than 24 hours rather than adding a 1-2 week delay. As to whether this really matters is hard to say. Perhaps I have watched too many U.S. court room dramas that including Jury selection. I.e., I'm not aware of anyone currently employing a "Nomcom volunteer selection consultant" ;-) Regards, Rob
