On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 05:39:05PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote: > > I miss the days when IETF was often capable of having constructive > > technical discussions, even when some participants' frustration was > > evident, without the need for moderators or Tone Police. > > Why, do you think, the days have gone? > > Masataka Ohta Since the last last time you mention, AFAIK, there has been a lot more focus on language in the IETF including inclusive language which made every RFC author more involved in considerations about language by being called out on it by RFC editor. Likewise we have BCP 83 PR action going on. Also the LLC is pushing for better procedures to protect IETF against legal challenges resulting from communications/postings. We also have a new moderator team and i think new refined moderation rules after we also in the past few years had some rather miserable moderation/conflict resolution examples on various fronts (IMHO, your mileage may vary). With IPv6 specifically i can also imagine that replies to comments like yours somehow are like what happens in a random repeated groundhog day: All simple and superficial arguments about IPv6 have been made over and over, and when people are just tired and have better things to do, they just ignore it. If on the other hand they think they can train for parts of the new language regime (for better or worse) on this example, they will do that. Cheers Toerless