RE: IPv6 adoption - IPv10 is the future.

[Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi A.Baryun,

 

>> it will never be easy to adopt another protocol other than IPv6, because most of other IETF-protocols depend on IPv6 protocol.

 

Why you call a tunnel to be another protocol, really to that level the draft name is confusing!

 

>> I suggest that your work *firstly* to be proposed/submitted to the IETF-African Community or IETF-Egyptian Community.

 

I didn’t have the chance to discuss IPv10 at one of AFRINIC events that was held in Egypt, but they proposed to discuss IPv10 at the IETF, and this is what I did, but can you tell me how to submit it to the IETF-African community or IETF-Egyptian community?

 

>> Also we need to consider that mostly IETF is drived by WGs, so if the first went well the *second* step to be  proposed within on WG, because the best discussions are done within IETF Groups not on IETF-list.

 

I’m asking only about the a first one step, no second step is something I’m looking for, why it is still considered to be a devil work!! What the hell 😃

 

Best regards,

Khaled Omar

 

 

From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 12:26 AM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IPv6 adoption - IPv10 is the future.

 

Hi Khaled,

 

I think IPv10 was discussed already twice maybe on IETF-list, however, the IPv6 is a big protocol and very well discussed for many years, so it is interesting to write a informational-draft about its disadvantages and problems for the current and future technologies. Always start with informational-draft before standard, that is the way IETF WGs do to clarify the problem statement and use-cases.

 

Also I think that IETF has a majority of IPv6 experts, so it isn't easy to discuss a new one with no interest from long living IETF-Areas, furthermore, it will never be easy to adopt another protocol other than IPv6, because most of other IETF-protocols depend on IPv6 protocol. However, I suggest that your work *firstly* to be proposed/submitted to the IETF-African Community or IETF-Egyptian Community. Also we need to consider that mostly IETF is drived by WGs, so if the first went well the *second* step to be  proposed within on WG, because the best discussions are done within IETF Groups not on IETF-list.

 Regards

AB

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:55 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes Tom, it describes the mission of the IETF and all its activities and how things goes with the IETF, but I think we should give some space for any internet draft to be discussed and reviewed and then decide, IPv10 didn’t take the full chance to be discussed or reviewed here, and this is what I’m looking for, the good minds here can add something valuable to the draft or correct something, but not to discard the draft at all.

 

Khaled Omar

 

From: Tom Beecher <beecher@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 8:23 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IPv6 adoption - IPv10 is the future.

 

I don’t know why till now the IETF didn’t take the IPv10 draft seriously into consideration 

 

You would likely get some benefit reviewing this document : https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tao/ 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 1:14 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi IETFers,

 

I still see no progress happens in the IPv6 deployment all over the world and 5 years ago when we started to do analysis we found out now that the migration process going so slow and now the percentage according to google hits 40% which gives an alarm of the internet division due to finding blocks of IPv6 only hosts and IPv4 only hosts in the internet.

 

 

I don’t know why till now the IETF didn’t take the IPv10 draft seriously into consideration as it would be applied since it was developed and it wouldn’t take so much time to be deployed in the internet.

 

I still see no better solution, not because I’m the IPv10 I-D author, but because I keep watching what’s going on on the internet and I see the red flag case will be raised soon due to the incompatibility between IPv4 and IPv6.

 

I hope I get positive replies because of course I’m not aware with everything happening at the IETF.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

Best regards,

 

Khaled Omar

Senior Service Delivery Engineer

DELL Technologies, Egypt