It appears that Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> said: >Actually, it very well may; way more people have unsubscribed from this list because of its toxic outbreaks than have their >posting rights removed. > >All these discussions have already happened and completed in the past, and I’d rather not waste any more time on relitigating them. Thanks, well said. I'm involved in a lot of technical organizations and in every place but here we manage to have productive technical discussions without calling people names. The IETF is very insular and not in a good way. R's, John PS: >If you do need unlimited freedom of expression, you know where to find 4chan. I hear that 4chan is so full of anti-free-speech censors that now there is 8kun. But I don't plan to check.