On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:44:52PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> >>> If we keep
> >>> asking people who don't have a problem with the way things
> >>> are now to change the way things are now, that seems
> >>> counterintuitive.
>
> Baloney. Never heard of "thinking outside the box"?
Let me give just two examples:
manycouches had many couch potatoes arguing for many many years to
have at least one virtual-only IETF per year, even if just as an
experiment. I do not remember a single AD thinking outside of a box
to push for such an experiment. It took covid.
A good amount of work, especially design teams became a lot more
open in reaction to USA EAR politics.
I really don't see on process wise a lot of proactive outside of the
box thinking in IETF leadership. I just see IETF being pushed around
by the box moving. Seemingly as in the examples above often for the better,
even if the reasons are not good.
Cheers
Toerless
