Hah. Nice. Yeah, that section has a bunch of aspirational text that doesn't capture the diversity and scope of IETF work well, but it is certainly well intentioned. "scaling is the ultimate problem" - yeah... no ;-) Cheers toerless On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 04:46:11PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: > On 10/7/21 4:41 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > There is no IETF document or IETF leadership statement telling them not to. > > So why should they not ? > > From RFC 7154: "IETF Guidelines for Conduct" > > 3. IETF participants devise solutions for the global Internet that > meet the needs of diverse technical and operational environments. > > The mission of the IETF is to produce high-quality, relevant > technical and engineering documents that influence the way people > design, use, and manage the Internet in such a way as to make the > Internet work better. The IETF puts its emphasis on technical > competence, rough consensus, and individual participation, and it > needs to be open to competent input from any source. We > understand that "scaling is the ultimate problem" and that many > ideas that are quite workable on a small scale fail this crucial > test. > > IETF participants use their best engineering judgment to find the > best solution for the whole Internet, not just the best solution > for any particular network, technology, vendor, or user. > > (similar language is also in RFC 3184) > > Keith > > > -- --- tte@xxxxxxxxx