On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 06:55:34PM +0100, Stewart Bryant wrote: > The other big difference is that those making money out of the internet now seem to regard it as a natural resource to be exploited and not something to invest in as was done in the past. There is no IETF document or IETF leadership statement telling them not to. So why should they not ? I seriously can't wrap my head around the fact that we have a HRPC RG, but no "Common Good of the Internet" GEN WG or RG (*). And ISOC doesn't seem to have any collaborative platform/process to produce output either, other than leadership individual contribution. internet-policy@xxxxxxxx is just the write-only complaints board. Cheers Toerless (*) I am mentioning HRPC not to criticise it, i think its great we have it. Instead i am mentioning it to claim that all the push back against having a WG/RG on Internet policy was/is using very similar (out of scope, not our expertise, go away) argument that could have equally been raised against HRPC. So i think there is just less interest in "Common Good of the Internet" in our leadership than they claim to have and IMHO should have.