On 14/4/21 15:01, Jim Fenton wrote:
On 14 Apr 2021, at 10:33, Eliot Lear wrote:
What does this mean to the IETF? I don’t think it means “stop doing
TERM”. Rather I think it means that we should work on the other
aspects. We should make it easy and fun to be here. And mostly it is
fun (of course I’m biased), but sometimes it’s not easy.
The question I keep asking myself (and I don’t have an answer) is
whether by focusing on terminology in this way we are distracting
ourselves from making more meaningful efforts to make IETF more
inclusive.
Well, the amount of energy spent on the topic, and how little we have
discussed all other issues, might seem to indicate that, indeed.
FWIW, people should probably talk about "non-derogatory" language rather
than about "inclusive terminology" -- unless they really think e.g.
those are the core reasons that hinder diversity.
I don’t know what those more meaningful efforts might be, but
I hope we’re addressing the big problems first.
At least when it comes to the *problems*, this might be of use:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-diversity-analysis
Thanks,
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Fernando Gont
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