Re: [Gendispatch] Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF

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On 25/2/21 17:49, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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    The rationale is that there are millions of people using GitHub, and
    if do documents with their toolchain, we will get more feedback from
    developers than if we tried to draw them into our toolchain.  I
    didn't realize that was what you were asking me.  This rationale was
    stated multiple times in the GIT WG.

FWIW, my impression of the situation is the same as Rich's.

Using the same toolchain, per se, doesn't seem like a rationale (note, I'm *not* challenging whether it was effective in your experience, but why rather why it was expected ot make a difference).



I can say with confidence that when TLS decided to adopt Github it was because we had seen that it worked well in H2. With that said, I do think it made it easier for people to get involved, in part because it was easy to offer small changes without subscribing to a list, etc.

Ok, so this seems to imply that part of the thing is that subcribing to the mailing-lists is seen as part of the problem.

What about e.g. the archives for the discussions, for future reference? Is github.com expected to take on that role?


It certainly made it easier to accept such contributions.

Certainly this kind of think may make the life of some easier, and the life of others more painful. But there *is* an implied tradeoff here. It's not a win-win thing.

Thanks,
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