Re: [OAUTH-WG] Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 4:57 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


> On 24 Feb 2021, at 2:20 am, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
> And way back when I was AD, OAuth was by far the most productive working group I managed.  They put out what felt like about 3 documents a meeting for full publication.  I was the AD for 3 years, ending in 2017 when EKR became an AD.
>
> There was a bit of management as a result of the number of experts and varying use cases for their environments, but even with that, OAuth was very productive.  Since your document was 2016, I was likely the AD.  Yes, the meetings had challenges at times, but we worked through it and things got done.

Measuring productivity through the number of documents published is not a good habit for us to get into;

The number of documents published was in response to a comment that "nothing would get done" at the OAuth WG. Which is clearly not true.
 
it gives incentive to all of the wrong kinds of behaviours.

Can you elaborate on these wrong behaviours?

Regards,
 Rifaat
 
Having some success metrics for our work has come up in the IAB a few times, but we haven't made much progress. 

Cheers,


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Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/

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