> On 24 Feb 2021, at 2:20 am, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: [...] > And way back when I was AD, OAuth was by far the most productive working group I managed. They put out what felt like about 3 documents a meeting for full publication. I was the AD for 3 years, ending in 2017 when EKR became an AD. > > There was a bit of management as a result of the number of experts and varying use cases for their environments, but even with that, OAuth was very productive. Since your document was 2016, I was likely the AD. Yes, the meetings had challenges at times, but we worked through it and things got done. Measuring productivity through the number of documents published is not a good habit for us to get into; it gives incentive to all of the wrong kinds of behaviours. Having some success metrics for our work has come up in the IAB a few times, but we haven't made much progress. Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/