Re: Challenge: was Re: Updated Nomcom 2020-2021: Result of random selection process

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> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 05:44:34PM -0700, Joseph Touch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think Mike did a good job in confusing the facts, and maybe the
>>> explanations from NomCom
>> 
>> IMO, Mike is correct.
>> 
>> I think the intent here is simple: there aren???t Huawei slots; when someone from a given company steps out, that doesn???t mean someone from that company steps in.
> 
> Of course not, but: 
> On which planet did this happen ?
> How do you come to interpret what happened in that way ?
> Luigi declined to serve. Thats all.
> 
> What am i overlooking here ?

Luigi’s new affiliation disqualifies Tai.

If Luigi wants to step out, that’s his decision - but he doesn’t get to then control the fact that Tai gets put back in. That’s the “but there is now a Huawei slot” issue - so, to answer your first question, planet Earth.

>> The right thing is to re-run the process and see what the result is.
> 
> rfc3797  section 5.1, paragraph 3.

Mike already spoke to this point.

>> Otherwise, as is being seen, one person can ???game??? who is on the committee. That???s exactly what the detailed automated process is intended to prevent.
> 
> And if 99% of NomCom qualified people are from one company,
> we can't build a NomCom. Please do not use ridiculous theories
> to justify changes in process or mishandling of the existing
> rules.

Conflict of interest is based on whatever anyone (including me) thinks COULD be a motivation.

That concept is no more ridiculous than the automated system that’s been created to go out of our way to avoid it.

Joe




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