On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:56 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 02/06/2020 22:41, Ted Hardie wrote:
> And you are convincing me that attempting to settle it on the IETF list
> will require somebody to judge consensus, since there look to be a minimum
> of two people with the time and keyboards available to disagree. We
> apparently, however, disagree on who that should be.
Perhaps not! If you do agree that consensus calling is
required that seems to imply the LLC is not the one to
do that. We have a bunch of 14 victims already setup
to do just that:-)
Since you referenced the magic number 14, I conclude we still disagree.
I think we do agree that there should be public discussion. I think we do agree that the LLC and IESG should talk to each other about the implications of different strategies to both the ongoing work of the IETF and its financial future. I think we do agree that any conclusion would be revisited in the light of evidence of how it ends up working.
But our disagreement on on who the stuckee is remains.
regards,
Ted
Cheers,
S.