Hiya, On 01/06/2020 23:50, Jay Daley wrote: > > >> On 2/06/2020, at 10:39 AM, Stephen Farrell >> <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> On 01/06/2020 23:14, Jay Daley wrote: >>>> Would it still apply when onsite meetings start to happen ? >>> No decision has been made about that. >> >> Would it be sensible to promise/ensure that a community discussion >> that determines direction, within the bounds of practicality, >> precedes, rather than follows, that decision? FWIW, I think it >> would and it's important that that be the case. IOW, let's sort out >> our approach to this before the timeframe of IETF109. > > It would be excellent if that could happen. Agreed. I take it that means we'll all try make that happen and that there'll be a discussion of this before IETF109. (Hopefully that discussion will be done ahead of the meeting date, but yeah, that might not happen;-) > >> >> It might or might not be a nit but while the detailed level of >> reasonable meeting fee is properly an LLC operational matter, the >> distinction between zero vs. non-zero fees for remote participants >> is IMO very much not an LLC matter and definitely does require >> community consensus. > > I would say that it should be covered by community consensus Sorry, I guess I was unclear. In the above I was trying to say that I think the longer term zero vs. non-zero decision requires community consensus. It's understandable if short- term problems get in the way of that, but not ok that those short-term issues trump the need for community consensus. Cheers, S. > but as > it isn’t and we have limited time to plan then it falls on the LLC > to fill the gap as an interim measure. From my perspective the > sooner the community provides guidance the better, though I should > repeat my suggestion that this discussed in the context of the > overall financial structure of the IETF (i.e. what we charge for and > why) and how that relates to the aspirations of the IETF for > participation, rather than just in the context of meeting finances. > > Jay > >> >> Cheers, S. >> >> >> >> <0x5AB2FAF17B172BEA.asc> >
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