>> so tell me, vint. maybe i am bit slow here, but. as icann is a >> shepherd of the public trust, other than personnel data, which are >> obviously confidential, why is icann not fiscally and procedurally >> transparent? why did there need to be any of this pool-pah in the >> first place? was there a critical shortage of controversy? > karl's initial request was for unlimited access (fine) AND > ability to release without limit any material he saw fit. ICANN > responded with a procedure to protect confidentiality. Karl never > took advantage of that (others did) but instead sued. I would > note that his position as to access/release changed, at least as > I understand it, after the suit was filed. these are details of yet another cat fight into which icann has wandered in its ever-unsatisfied desire for pool-pah. i was trying to look above that. what fiscal or procedural matters of icann (other than personnel data, which are usually well-protected anyway) preclude simple transparency? why don't you just simply publish the stuff at a detailed level on the web [0]? randy --- [0] - e.g. afnog's financial *details*, not summary, down to the dollar are on a public web site. e.g. <http://www.nsrc.org/AFNOG-2000-Final.html> <http://www.nsrc.org/AFNOG-2001-Final.html> i don't think 2002 is finalized yert