[Hotplug_sig] Re: PLM patch spider

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On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 15:37 +0000, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:13:48PM -0700, Judith Lebzelter wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:41 -0700, Judith Lebzelter wrote:
> > > > We have a cron job that will hit the patch directory once every three 
> > > > hours to check for new patches.  It also pulls a patch if it finds one.  
> > > > This is the same schedule we use for other kernel patches.
> > > 
> > > Is there a chance that you guys could update your PLM fetcher a little
> > > bit?  It likes to go looking for files that aren't actually present on
> > > my web server,
> 
> Which files are those?  I can probably filter those more tightly in
> package_retriever.
  
       URL (426)
       Error Hits
        Referers
/patches/2.6.11/patches/
457
-
/patches/2.6.10/patches/
457
-
/patches/2.6.12/patches/
457
-
/patches/2.6.8/patches/
457
-
/patches/2.6.9/patches/
456
-

> > > which generates a fair amount of log output that I
> > > usually like to keep an eye on.  That isn't a big problem in and of
> > > itself, it just bloats the logs.
> 
> Yeah, spidering is kind of a blunt instrument in general...  I notice
> that new patches aren't posted too often.  Is it worth it for us to be
> scanning for new patches so much?

There's a gap in the releases right now while we go do other things.
They'll resume.

> > > The user agent strings are now something like: "PLM/0.1" and
> > > "lwp-trivial/1.41".  Could they, perhaps, get a little bit more
> > > informative, like:
> > > 
> > > 	"PLM/0.1 patch spider http://developer.osdl.org/dev/stp/";
> > > 
> > 
> > Good idea to give more info.  We had a problem with a busy robot last week 
> > and I was very happy they gave us enough info.
> 
> I've updated the script that makes the lwp agent string to use curl and
> to print an agent string like this:
> 
>   package_retriever/1.00 <hostname> spider <descriptive-comment>
> 
> I'm going to add a few more changes to this script, so it may be a few
> days before I am able to switch over to it.

Putting the PLM url into <descriptive-comment> would be exceedingly
informative :)

> Also, are you sure it's reporting lwp-trivial?  I was actually using
> lwp-simple.

I haven't tracked it down  There appear to be hits from both, although
the lwp-trivial/1.40 references seem almost a month old.

> > > Also, it would be kind if they obeyed robots.txt, or at least fetched
> > > it.  My log analyzer will detect robots based just on fetching
> > > "robots.txt" when beginning a crawl.
> > 
> > We should be obeying robots.txt.
> > 
> > We will be able to do these updates but it may take a little while to get 
> > to them and deploy.
> 
> I've implemented robot support for package_retriever.  Doesn't look like
> I navigate through the directory that robots.txt is blocking, but I
> guess this'll give you the ability to control what the script spiders.

Thanks for doing all of this.  

-- Dave


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