On Monday 09 June 2003 20:51, Jeremy McNamara wrote: > >YOU NEED AN INTERFACE to "speak" with the database. > >What does a database mean? DBM, MS-SQL, Oracle, flat text files, DBase, > >FOXpro? Where is the intermediator??? > > There is ZERO need. The gateway manufactures were lazy and decided to > implement a broken technology that should have never been deployed. > All that RADIUS does is add another layer of failure and complicate the > network. I can not agree with you. Lazy manufacturers implement only the H323 stack leaving the customer to bang his head on how to do a prepaid billing with it. Lazy manufacturers - all small equipment manufacturers like Welltech, DLink, MicroNet and etc. On the other size - the big guys... Cisco, Quintum, Voicemaster. Radius + IVR is a standart which everyone should follow. It is a kind of a different story if we do like it, or do not. > RADIUS is a hack. It is absolutely NOT a standard or universal. (Are > you mad?) Every single manufacture out there has their own very Look at billing&provisioning systems for VoIP. 95% of them are based on Radius. Ask yourself why. Then answer yourself to the above question. > specific VSAs that you have to rely on being absolutely perfect if you > are going to perfectly bill your customers. (Especially for a usage 80% of the VoIP carriers/ITSPs use Cisco. And definitely they use Radius. Your claim that they do bill their customers perfectly (if true) will crash the market completely :) > based service) We spent countless money trying to beat up Cisco and > Qunitum to fix their VSAs but (of course) they won't admit there is even > a problem, so we dropped them and did everything the right way. > let me know your problems out of the list. I will do my best to help you. > Our 'device' (i'm not gonna call it a gateway, because it is not just a > gateway) can either have a database inside of it and replicate data to a > master database or it can talk directly to a centralized database. Not > to mention it can do all of the IVRs, call routing and custom > applications that a 5300 can't even dream of doing. 5300 is manufactured to work, not to dream, but anyhow. It does work. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. _______________________________________________ List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id?49 Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/