Sorry, no offence, just alerting. Opened your mail and there it was. Dunno. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy McNamara" <jj@indie.org> To: <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius > How lame.. Im runing Linux so how can I get infected with a winblows > virus?. You simply can't stand being wrong, can you? > > > > Tjapko Smits - iTS Consultancy wrote: > > >Be careful. My virus scanner alerted me for the memo from jeremy Mcnamara > >that it contains the bugbear virus...... > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jeremy McNamara" <jj@indie.org> > >To: <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > >Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:51 PM > >Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius > > > > > > > > > >>Teodor Georgiev wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>>>What is really so hard since there are more than 100 VoIP prepaid > >>>>> > >>>>> > >billing > > > > > >>>>>software packages? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>And every single one of them is either dramaticly overcomplicated or > >>>>only works with very specific gateway's. > >>>> > >>>>Just think about it. What would you rather have: > >>>> > >>>>Gateway ----> Radius server ----> Database > >>>> > >>>>or > >>>> > >>>>Gateway ----> Database > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>The correct picture is: > >>> > >>>VoIP gateway <---> standart interface <---> Database > >>> > >>>YOU NEED AN INTERFACE to "speak" with the database. > >>>What does a database mean? DBM, MS-SQL, Oracle, flat text files, DBase, > >>>FOXpro? Where is the intermediator??? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>There is ZERO need. The gateway manufactures were lazy and decided to > >>implement a broken technology that should have never been deployed. > >>All that RADIUS does is add another layer of failure and complicate the > >>network. > >> > >>This is the whole VHS and Beta issue again... Beta was a superior > >>technology but VHS was marketed more successfully. > >> > >> > >> > >>>You have to have a STANDART that speak ALL THE LANGUAGES. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Um no... Your starting to sound like Mr. Borg Gatus now. > >> > >>I know for an absolute fact my network is never going to need MS-SQL or > >>Oracle, so why have all of that extra crap just laying around? > >> > >> > >> > >>>Well, such a standart is Radius. Do you have a better UNIVERSAL/STANDART > >>>proposition? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>RADIUS is a hack. It is absolutely NOT a standard or universal. (Are > >>you mad?) Every single manufacture out there has their own very > >>specific VSAs that you have to rely on being absolutely perfect if you > >>are going to perfectly bill your customers. (Especially for a usage > >>based service) We spent countless money trying to beat up Cisco and > >>Qunitum to fix their VSAs but (of course) they won't admit there is even > >>a problem, so we dropped them and did everything the right way. > >> > >>Our 'device' (i'm not gonna call it a gateway, because it is not just a > >>gateway) can either have a database inside of it and replicate data to a > >>master database or it can talk directly to a centralized database. Not > >>to mention it can do all of the IVRs, call routing and custom > >>applications that a 5300 can't even dream of doing. > >> > >>http://www.asterisk.org plus our custom billing additions is all we > >>will ever need. > >> > >> > >> > >>Jeremy McNamara > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best > >>thread debugger on the planet. 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