Be careful. My virus scanner alerted me for the memo from jeremy Mcnamara that it contains the bugbear virus...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy McNamara" <jj@indie.org> To: <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius > Teodor Georgiev wrote: > > >>>What is really so hard since there are more than 100 VoIP prepaid billing > >>>software packages? > >>> > >>> > >>And every single one of them is either dramaticly overcomplicated or > >>only works with very specific gateway's. > >> > >>Just think about it. What would you rather have: > >> > >>Gateway ----> Radius server ----> Database > >> > >>or > >> > >>Gateway ----> Database > >> > >> > > > >The correct picture is: > > > >VoIP gateway <---> standart interface <---> Database > > > >YOU NEED AN INTERFACE to "speak" with the database. > >What does a database mean? DBM, MS-SQL, Oracle, flat text files, DBase, > >FOXpro? Where is the intermediator??? > > > > > > There is ZERO need. The gateway manufactures were lazy and decided to > implement a broken technology that should have never been deployed. > All that RADIUS does is add another layer of failure and complicate the > network. > > This is the whole VHS and Beta issue again... Beta was a superior > technology but VHS was marketed more successfully. > > >You have to have a STANDART that speak ALL THE LANGUAGES. > > > > > Um no... Your starting to sound like Mr. Borg Gatus now. > > I know for an absolute fact my network is never going to need MS-SQL or > Oracle, so why have all of that extra crap just laying around? > > >Well, such a standart is Radius. Do you have a better UNIVERSAL/STANDART > >proposition? > > > > > RADIUS is a hack. It is absolutely NOT a standard or universal. (Are > you mad?) Every single manufacture out there has their own very > specific VSAs that you have to rely on being absolutely perfect if you > are going to perfectly bill your customers. (Especially for a usage > based service) We spent countless money trying to beat up Cisco and > Qunitum to fix their VSAs but (of course) they won't admit there is even > a problem, so we dropped them and did everything the right way. > > Our 'device' (i'm not gonna call it a gateway, because it is not just a > gateway) can either have a database inside of it and replicate data to a > master database or it can talk directly to a centralized database. Not > to mention it can do all of the IVRs, call routing and custom > applications that a 5300 can't even dream of doing. > > http://www.asterisk.org plus our custom billing additions is all we > will ever need. > > > > Jeremy McNamara > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best > thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features > you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. > _______________________________________________ > List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8549 > Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. _______________________________________________ List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8549 Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/