Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy McNamara" <jj@indie.org>
To: <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius


> Teodor Georgiev wrote:
>
> >>>What is really so hard since there are more than 100 VoIP prepaid
billing
> >>>software packages?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>And every single one of them is either dramaticly overcomplicated or
> >>only works with very specific gateway's.
> >>
> >>Just think about it. What would you rather have:
> >>
> >>Gateway ----> Radius server ----> Database
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>Gateway ----> Database
> >>
> >>
> >
> >The correct picture is:
> >
> >VoIP gateway <---> standart interface <---> Database
> >
> >YOU NEED AN INTERFACE to "speak" with the database.
> >What does a database mean? DBM, MS-SQL, Oracle, flat text files, DBase,
> >FOXpro?  Where is the intermediator???
> >
> >
>
> There is ZERO need.   The gateway manufactures were lazy and decided to
> implement a broken technology that should have never been deployed.
> All that RADIUS does is add another layer of failure and complicate the
> network.
>
> This is the whole VHS and Beta issue again... Beta was a superior
> technology but VHS was marketed more successfully.
>
> >You have to have a STANDART that speak ALL THE LANGUAGES.
> >
> >
> Um no...  Your starting to sound like Mr. Borg Gatus now.
>
> I know for an absolute fact my network is never going to need MS-SQL or
> Oracle, so why have all of that extra crap just laying around?
>
> >Well, such a standart is Radius. Do you have a better UNIVERSAL/STANDART
> >proposition?
> >
> >
> RADIUS is a hack.  It is absolutely NOT a standard or universal. (Are
> you mad?)  Every single manufacture out there has their own very
> specific VSAs that you have to rely on being absolutely perfect if you
> are going to perfectly bill your customers. (Especially for a usage
> based service)   We spent countless money trying to beat up Cisco and
> Qunitum to fix their VSAs but (of course) they won't admit there is even
> a problem, so we dropped them and did everything the right way.
>
> Our 'device' (i'm not gonna call it a gateway, because it is not just a
> gateway) can either have a database inside of it and replicate data to a
> master database or it can talk directly to a centralized database.  Not
> to mention it can do all of the IVRs, call routing and custom
> applications that a 5300 can't even dream of doing.
>
> http://www.asterisk.org  plus our custom billing additions is all we
> will ever need.
>
>
>
> Jeremy McNamara
>
>
>
>
>
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