Re: [Openh323gk-users] about Radius

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Teodor Georgiev wrote:

YOU NEED AN INTERFACE to "speak" with the database.
What does a database mean? DBM, MS-SQL, Oracle, flat text files, DBase,
FOXpro? Where is the intermediator???


There is ZERO need. The gateway manufactures were lazy and decided to
implement a broken technology that should have never been deployed.
All that RADIUS does is add another layer of failure and complicate the
network.



I can not agree with you. Lazy manufacturers implement only the H323 stack leaving the customer to bang his head on how to do a prepaid billing with it.
Lazy manufacturers - all small equipment manufacturers like Welltech, DLink,
MicroNet and etc.
On the other size - the big guys... Cisco, Quintum, Voicemaster. Radius + IVR is a standart which everyone should follow. It is a kind of a different story if we do like it, or do not.




I still can't see how you think RADIUS is a 'standard' when every vendor has their own specific attributes?




RADIUS is a hack. It is absolutely NOT a standard or universal. (Are
you mad?) Every single manufacture out there has their own very



Look at billing&provisioning systems for VoIP. 95% of them are based on Radius. Ask yourself why. Then answer yourself to the above question.



Look at how complicated and the requirements they have to make their software work.


I have a customer that wasted $35,000 on sysmaster and now is completely on board with Asterisk, which only cost him about $2000 to get trained and the telephony hardware. Now he has his own geeks writing is own completely custom billing system without a single RADIUS server in site and no crazy dongles you gotta change every 45 days.


Our 'device' (i'm not gonna call it a gateway, because it is not just a
gateway) can either have a database inside of it and replicate data to a
master database or it can talk directly to a centralized database. Not
to mention it can do all of the IVRs, call routing and custom
applications that a 5300 can't even dream of doing.



5300 is manufactured to work, not to dream, but anyhow. It does work.




OK, show me how to do pre-paid authentication on the egress gateway with a 5300 or Quintum.



Jeremy McNamara





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