Sven wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 21:05 +0100, peter sikking wrote: > >> and I can't believe that proposing an alignment of GIMP UI with >> the realities of users expectations meets such a dogged resistance. > > There is no dogged resistance. I just had the impression that you > believed that storing selections would be the only use of channels. no, my diagnosis is that it is just abuse of channels. > It > is more like a useful side-effect of it. Perhaps it makes sense to > make > it more obvious how to save and restore selections, but we also need > to > make sure that we are not taking away important features. Channels is > really an area where GIMP is lacking. If we want to be taken > seriously, > then there should be much more emphasis on channels. Removing them > from > the default UI is not a step towards that. so we were solving two different problems. You were resurrecting the channels and I was resurrecting the selections. looking at channels: I am not the one to come up with suggestions what else channels can do. a discussion of this would be welcome. what I can say is that "how are we going to get graphical information into channels" needs to be brought up to a level that there is for layer masks (but taking the global nature of channels into account). I was reviewing the transport of graphical information between layers, masks, selections, channels. the weaker part seems to be the channels and also the alpha channel, I am still mesmerised that it cannot be made visible, tangible like the layer mask. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer