Sven wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 14:38 +0100, peter sikking wrote: > >> this may look to you like we are only shuffling the furniture, >> but I cannot overstate how much this change is needed in the interest >> of usability: >> >> >> really. I am not exaggerating. >> >> >> a significant portion of our core user group will perceive this as >> we added selection management for the first time. the mind-boggling >> way it works now simply makes it a non-starter for them. >> non-starter = does not exist. >> >> for the significant portion of our core user group who have come >> to terms with the current way of working this change will be a >> welcome speed-up of their workflow, because GIMP does not make >> them think anymore in this regard. > > I think you are missing the bigger picture here. Channels are not only > about saved selections. If they were, we should indeed declare then as > such. But channels are also used for simulating spot colors and as > such > they are much more closely related to the color components that are > shown at the top of the dialog. There are more interesting things that > can be done with channels. Unfortunately this is not very well covered > in the GIMP documentation (the old manual by the Kylanders was > better in > this regard). That's why it is even more important that we keep this > close to the Photoshop channels dialog. Then users can at least > benefit > from the documentation that exists for PS. hmmm, there must be a misunderstanding here. if you read carefully what I am proposing then you'll see that the only thing that is going to change about the channels dialog itself is that the stored selections will be outa' there. I cannot see how that will upset true channels workflows, nor their documentation. I think the only thing that is left to argue about is whether the channels dialog should still be in the right dock by default or not. I can live with it when it stays there after the introduction of a selections dock-able dialog. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer