Re: [Gimp-docs] Re: [Gimp-web] Flash Tutorials

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On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:41:52AM +0200, Roman Joost wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:21:06AM -0700, Manish Singh wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 08:03:49AM +0200, Roman Joost wrote:
> > > tutorials are just another medium of pointing out how things work.
> > > Jimmac made in the early days of GIMP 2.0 videos which where greatly
> > > accepted by the users. Why not Flash as well? 
> > 
> > Animation and video are good for demos and advertising. If you want to
> > see a cool demo of how jimmac uses GIMP, it's great. If you want to
> > actually follow along, refer back to it parts of it later, search
> > through it, or discuss finer points of it with others on mailing lists,
> > irc, etc., it sucks. It's not really effective *documentation*.
> Thats the same with the flash movie. It is definitely not the intention
> to replace our documentation by flash tutorials. It's just a different
> way of telling people how things work. Thats all ... nothing more ...
> 
> > If it's important enough to be documented, it's important enough to be
> > put in a useful format. Other formats are secondary.
> Sure - but whats 'useful'? The average user might have a total different
> understanding about what is useful for him than what is useful for us as
> developers. I think users probably don't care which format the content
> is distributed unless they can access it. This could be really bad or
> good some times ...

This flash movie seemed to be aimed at developers....

> > This flash video especially, the content is so much better done as a
> > static tutorial. Who wants to keep hitting pause if you don't follow
> > along fast enough, or twiddle your thumbs while you wait for it catch up
> > with you? Like I said, the animation adds no value.
> Sure, but it's now a Flash and not a static tutorial. Jan put time in
> creating those movies and afterwards we're discussing what will be the
> best format to distribute the content.  
> 
> Why not making them available and let the public decide if it's good or
> bad for them?
> 
> I sometimes have the feeling that contributions were discussed to death,
> instead of placing them somewhere people can find and improve them
> afterwards.

I feel what belongs on official GIMP pages should have some baseline
standards, just like what goes in the codebase has to live up to a
standard of code quality.

What's next after Flash? Word documents?

-Yosh
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