On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 10:43, Adam Jackson wrote: > But nooooo. Gotta keep having VTs so we can recover when X screws up. > I mean, it's the unix way. Which apparently means designing failure in > from the start, and calling it a feature. Yes the long term solution is KMS and it is coming. Until then we do have to live with the situation as it exists. And until X 'just works' for the great majority of users something like c-a-bs is a lot more useful than harmful. Most of the complaints seem to be emacs users having a default keybinding on c-a-bs. An emacs user should be able to figure out how to disable display zapping. Perhaps the procedure could be documented better and made more visible. Always thought the kernel should have been managing the video hardware like it does every other device in the machine. In this respect *NIX has been almost as stupid as DOS. Lack of a useful video abstraction (as in not slow, buggy and retarded) caused no end of trouble in that camp when Windows 9x came out and outright killed most DOS games when NT/XP became the norm. At least we only (generally) have the one application doing the direct bit twiddling. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list