On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 22:40, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > until you can give the developers something concrete with which to > work all the other comments about this aren't going to amount to squat. Rodd, Grub's DEVELOPERS have already abandoned Grub. Grub is legacy, obsolete, bereft of life, resting in peace. Grub is only here because some MAINTAINER at Redhat nailed Grub to the perch. What is wrong with Grub is that Grub is not as reliable as Lilo. That is why Lilo is needed for serious work. Software developers understand that reliability is important. System administrators understand that reliability is important. Users understand that reliability is important. Business managers may not know how to change their screensavers but even they understand that reliability is important. Simple test cases are great but not always possible. Repeatable failure modes are not the only kind of bugs and recoding is not the only kind of solution. The solution here is easy, and doesn't require any coding. Redhat needs to put Lilo back in Fedora Core is all. --Mike Bird