> Redhat VP Michael Tiemann said that he "believes customers should be > directly involved in designing and creating products from the earliest > stages." That's what we're trying to do here. Tiemann said that in the > past Redhat has "insulted some of our best supporters" and that things > were going to change. > Not to pick semantic nits but fedora is not a product. It is a project. It does not have customers - it has users and a community. if you want a product, use rhel. There you are a customer. -sv