On 4/14/05, Mike Bird <mgb-fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Run fdisk -l. You'll find a partition marked active. LILO chained to > the boot loader in that partition. Here's what i think... i think its not sufficient to look at the just the first line of the od -c output. And i think you know that, and your just wasting Paul's time. I think there is a trivial header space thats not important to bootloader operation.. and grub leaves that short header segment alone when installing its stage1. Hell looking at grub's actual stage1 and all i get are zeros from od -c /boot/grub/stage1 | head -1 0000000 353 H 220 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 Here's a better approach doing a diff of the first 446 bytes returned from od -c of the mbr boot.b and grub's stage1 file. I'll break it down into several steps..so for anyone playing along can get a chance to visually inspect the output in actual files. od -N 446 -c /dev/hda > /tmp/mbr od -N 446 -c /boot/boot.b > /tmp/lilo od -N 446 -c /boot/grub/stage1 > /tmp/grub diff /tmp/mbr /tmp/grub The only thing returned in this diff.. is the very short space at the front of that 446 bytes. diff /tmp/mbr /tmp/lilo returns essential the whole recorded output. Indicating to me that even though the first few bytes in the mbr space were not overwritten by grub.. the bulk of it was.. and that the first few bytes are not important to grub operation. If Paul is still paying attention to this thread, he might want to compare his results to mine. Just to put the last nail in the coffin over the somewhat silly idea that lilo is actually magically chainloading. -jef"is getting tired of using his powers for good"spaleta