On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 11:02 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: [snip] > and we've shown that the > obvious "grub-install --recheck /dev/md0" does not install Grub to any > of the MBR's. Redhat has thus far been unable to tell us any new magic > spells for making Grub do what Redhat vaguely implies that Grub can now > do. [snip] Avoiding the temptation I have to demonstrate how patently false and divisive most (but not all) of the rest of your post is, I will address only this point. There is no excuse for this deliberately deceptive claim, especially when YOU participated in the rather short thread where I proved otherwise. "grub-install --recheck /dev/md0" (and probably even without the --recheck if your hardware hasn't changed) works. Why you chose to ignore my test case is beyond me. The characters 'LILO' still left behind (as a remnant) after doing the grub-install has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not grub was really installed. I haven't looked at the code, so I don't know why that is, but it most definitely IS. I did that test, believe it or not, with some skepticism based on my past experience with grub on software RAID 1. The results surprised me. After describing my unexpected success, I sort of expected (understandably) others to say 'oh, hey, maybe it is fixed, let me check for myself on my test systems.' If you're not willing to do that, when I -- someone who has had a long history of the same software RAID 1 problem as others -- have demonstrated that the problem is at long last SOLVED for my configuration, then I have to wonder why your are subscribed at all to fedora-test-list. Some posters have demonstrated that there are some legitimate gripes about this whole mess. You raise questions about your credibility when you demonstrate an unwillingness to admit that maybe, just maybe, *something* truly has been fixed. So please, test -- to confirm or rebut -- what one skeptical, long term, somewhat frustrated grub-on-software-raid1 user has successfully tested. If you and/or others come back with corroboration of what I've found, maybe we can *finally* declare the problem fixed and call an end to at least ONE aspect of this thread: grub on software raid 1. And then deal with other alleged problems. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets