On Wed, 2005-13-04 at 19:25 -0300, Pedro Fernandes Macedo wrote: > Guy Fraser wrote: > > >Bull crap. > > > >Everyone else probably gave up or found some other way around > >the problem. > > > >Why would I or anyone else enter a new bug report for a bug > >that is already duplicated a bunch of times. I am sure there > >are dozens of people who have the same complications that don't > >post duplicate bug reports. > > > > > > > With all the due respect, but did you *ever* programmed anything? > Debugging any program without lots of data isnt very easy (I'd say it > comes close to impossible , specially if you cant replicate the issue on > your machine or any machine you have access to). Even if you provide > duplicated data , you are probably helping to define a pattern that > could show what the problem is. As a mater of fact yes. I have been programming since 1980. I started writing, patching, customizing and porting UNIX software in 1995. I have software that I customized personally, with no outside help, that a number of ISP's are still using today. I have patched it when bugs showed up, but for over three years no there have not been any bugs. I have also supported a number of mainstream open source projects, providing many patches and bug fixes. I have even submitted bug fixes to Redhat that were accepted and implemented {although no credit was ever given to me}. Being a perfectionist, I test the heck out of my programs before releasing them. I run many simulations and scenarios testing with good data and configurations as well as bad data and poor configurations, until I break it. Then I fix it so it won't break anymore. Once I can't get it to break, I then and only then consider it ready for testing. Once it has survived rigorous testing for at least one full month, I then consider it ready for deployment. > > >I am willing to guess that like me many people have opted for > >booting off a drive attached to slower onboard PATA device, > >because that was the only way they could get there machine to > >run. Each time I installed a new drive or replace a drive with > >a larger one, grub would fail and it only reports a stupid > >*error number*. What good is that! Lookup the error number > >and all it meant was that it could not find a requested file, > >but gave no indication what file or device it was looking for > >the file on. Are you seriously going to tell me that only 5 > >people have got the arcane error number after changing a non > >boot drive? > > > > > Considering the number of different people that report bugs on bugzilla > , I'm starting to believe that only those 5 people got that arcane error > you mentioned... Btw , in which circunstances it happens????? > > -- > Pedro Macedo Are you saying only 5 people have ever got the "Error 15" message? Really, you jest!