I think failure to shut down promptly should not be a "blocker" event. Is shutdown in three minutes instead of three seconds an aggravation for the user who wants to use a new kernal or another operating system? Yes. Does unreasonable time to shut down indicate lack of quality in Fedora? Of course. However, to call this a blocker looks like an attempt by QA to extort developers to address a defect that has little impact on usability. If you do not want to wait so long for shutdown, pull the plug, or learn how to configure what services run and how long they wait when told to stop. This is not a true blocker. Real blockers must have greater impact: problems like dnf unable to update a system, faults that prevent network access, or inability to start a graphical desktop. _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx