On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:30 AM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, frankly. Not a lot of testers even keep a DVD-RW drive and media > around any more. It takes like a half hour just to write all the media > for testing, then another few hours to run complete installs from them > all (since optical media are *slow*). > > If it's not burdensome, why does no-one except the paid RH folks ever > seem to run the test? And usually at the last minute, at that? > > I've had to buy three DVD-RW drives *solely for the purpose of being > able to test this* (they keep dying, the things aren't terribly > reliable). And I keep a spindle of media around, again, solely for the > purpose of testing this, I don't use them for anything else. (In fact > I've nearly run out, so if we keep this criteria, I'm gonna have to go > out and blow some money on some more media I won't ever use for > anything but testing this). This kind of disproportionate shift of a criterion's burden is inappropriate. It also sticks in my craw when bugs like this are discovered late. In theory if you test the released beta, and a nightly early on in freeze, there shouldn't be a regression in the final release that'd cause only optical boot failures. I'm a +1 to entirely dropping the criterion. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx