Re: proposal: drop optical media from release criteria

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On Sat, 2018-09-22 at 11:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:30 AM Adam Williamson
> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, frankly. Not a lot of testers even keep a DVD-RW drive and media
> > around any more. It takes like a half hour just to write all the media
> > for testing, then another few hours to run complete installs from them
> > all (since optical media are *slow*).
> > 
> > If it's not burdensome, why does no-one except the paid RH folks ever
> > seem to run the test? And usually at the last minute, at that?
> > 
> > I've had to buy three DVD-RW drives *solely for the purpose of being
> > able to test this* (they keep dying, the things aren't terribly
> > reliable). And I keep a spindle of media around, again, solely for the
> > purpose of testing this, I don't use them for anything else. (In fact
> > I've nearly run out, so if we keep this criteria, I'm gonna have to go
> > out and blow some money on some more media I won't ever use for
> > anything but testing this).
> 
> This kind of disproportionate shift of a criterion's burden is
> inappropriate. It also sticks in my craw when bugs like this are
> discovered late.
> 
> In theory if you test the released beta, and a nightly early on in
> freeze, there shouldn't be a regression in the final release that'd
> cause only optical boot failures.

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice...:P
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