>>>>> "AM" == Anne Mulhern <amulhern@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: AM> Notice that all instances of fuck that show up are at least somewhat AM> appropriate to the app or library, and have little to do with the AM> core obscene meaning of the word. I've long since accepted that it is pointless to try and make such rational distinctions, since offense is in the mind of the offended. If someone is crying "You have a package with fuck in the name; it's not family friendly" then there isn't much point in arguing over shades of meaning of the word fuck or the context surrounding its meaning. AM> (Wikipedia tells me that Beaner/Beano is an offensive name for an AM> Hispanic person.) It's an extremely mild and somewhat comical slur. And "Beano" is also the brand name for a very common (in the USA) preparation of an enzyme which is used to reduce gas in the digestive tract. So there's hilarity all around. AM> The question assumes that the upstream had deliberately chosen the AM> name for this meaning, that it wasn't an accidental match, as in AM> debugger or manuscript. If you have an upstream which does such a thing, what are the chances that the software they're producing is actually useful? If it's useful, it should stand on its merits and not the name. And if it's just crap, then there probably isn't much point in adding it to the distribution. I would assume that any such software would tend towards the 'crap' end of the spectrum, but it's an infinite universe.... Also note that in order for such a thing to make it into the distrubution, at least two people must agree on its relevance. The person who submits the package, the person who reviews the package, and perhaps the person who processes the SCM request (who doesn't always look, though when process things I almost always read the package review). In any case, if there's a specific instance of something which you believe to be worth including in Fedora but which has a name that might cause offense, feel free to name it so the community can discuss it. Otherwise this a lot of typing for a hypothetical. Note that Fedora does have restrictions on "offensive" content. I believe they are somewhat misguided, but they've existed since the earliest days of the project, probably to avoid flamewars. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Code_Vs_Content - J< -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx