On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:58:44PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 23:19 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote: > > Which is the problem. Since this is not any metadata you store > > anywhere it is something defined locally. And if you mirror the raw > > UTF8 filenames onto a mirror that has set local policy to be latin1 > > the web server will serve funny ~A names. > > So are you claiming that mirrors can't be fixed ? No, anything, but my car can be fixed, but are you willing to take on the task to support all admins current and future to properly migrate to utf8 whether it's a Fedora/RHEL/Debian/Solaris OS of arbitrary age running on the mirror? > I think that resistance against standardizing around utf8 is getting > ridiculous at this point. I understand that people that never used > anything but ASCII may find it annoying that there are people out there > that use funny characters, but I wonder when they will realize that they > are the minority in the world, and that the others would like to be > treated like first class citizens like everybody else. Actually most people against using UTF8 are such that got bitten by the encoding problems, e.g. living in a locale that actually uses non-ASCII characters. I have had to fix too many times encoding errors of say Übersetzungen.tex and �bersetzungen.tex to use the transiliterated Uebersetzungen.tex. > Unless there is a very compelling technical problem, I think we should > try as hard as possible to support and use by default utf8 everywhere. > The more we use it, the more we uncover bugs that we can hopefully fix. And what will happen if I can't even read the package's name like say an arabic version of libenese-fonts. Even if I can read libanese, if I haven'z installed the font, the package will display as many empty boxes to me to select from (among many other packages with empty boxes). You run into a catch22 situation here. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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