> We have several tweaks in the panel configuration (trash, mailwatch, > etc) but we [1] want the basic panel layout (top and bottom panel) to > follow upstream. the upstream was not happy by trying to move this discussion to their ML they say that layout is a branding issue and me trying to upstream that is like claiming to be "I'm always right" > Upstreaming is for sending patches to upstream. You are talking about branding. http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024007.html http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024022.html http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024027.html http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024037.html as a summary many liked it some says that ubuntu uses a gnome-like two panels http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024002.html http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/024007.html some say it can be easily changed by users so there is no point to change it some suggest having a first-login layout chooser and some say that Xfce default layout is not optimal but it's made so to make gnome users unhappy and to make CDE geeks happy http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/023987.html and some summaries it like this <<EOF The advantages and disadvantages of setups as I know of now: = Two panels = + Makes optimal use of the screen corners. + Gives the task list enough space on resolutions that are not that wide. - Uses more vertical screen real estate. = One panel = + Saves screen real estate (given that the one panel is not that big like it is with e.g. KDE) for resolutions that are not that high (which might occur with the new netbooks which have enough horizontal space due to the website problem I mentioned above, but are saving on vertical space). - Might cause clutter in the panels when too many items are added. = Vertical panel(s) = - Distorts websites - Makes the task list less easy to read EOF http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/2008-October/023974.html > Nirik has only one account. There is no kaven and kevin is Kevin Kofler. I was mislead by zodbot alsadi: .whoowns xfce4-panel zodbot: alsadi: kevin http://www.xubuntu.org/files/thunar.png > Well, since you included me in that conversation, I would like to note that the simple layout changes suggested here usually do not require invasive patches and can easily be maintained which is one of the usual pain points otherwise but I do not maintain any Xfce package and just the Xfce spin/live cd so this is upto others to decide. yes it's very simple, It's just to copy the panels .rc files in the right folder (make the session you love then copy ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ files to /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/) the upstream says that their users are the tarball users who can compile Xfce not Windows converts who are using Linux for desktop, that's why they will continue with the CDE layout but the question now, is Fedora intended for such people [ie. CDE geeks] please if you decide to keep the upstream CDE styled layout, please put the defaults in a subpackage so that spinners like me could replace it %files default /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/*.rc /etc/xdg/xfce4/panel/*.xml -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
