Re: default XFCE layout

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Am Donnerstag, den 16.10.2008, 06:57 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 12.10.2008, 01:59 +0300 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
> >> Hi, sorry I though you meant devel-list as a way to get it into F10
> >> and upstream them later
> > 
> > We have several tweaks in the panel configuration (trash, mailwatch,
> > etc) but we [1] want the basic panel layout (top and bottom panel) to
> > follow upstream.
> 
> Well, since you included me in that conversation, I would like to note 
> that the simple layout changes suggested here usually do not require 
> invasive patches and can easily be maintained which is one of the usual 
> pain points otherwise but I do not maintain any Xfce package and just 
> the Xfce spin/live cd so this is upto others to decide.

Sorry for mentioning you although you were not really involved in this
decision. Kevin and me talked about that during our latest Xfce SIG
meetings while you haven't been around. I know it's hard/impossible for
you to attend the meetings at the current time slot but we have offered
several alternatives and haven't heard anything back from you after my
last suggestion (which was UTC 18:00).

I did several mockus [1] but in the end Kevin and I agreed that we
should not follow the Xubuntu path and instead stick close to upstream.
If someone wants something different, he can easily change the panel
layout.

> Also I do personally prefer a double panel with the layout I have filed 
> a RFE on, a while back, rather than a single one but if there is a more 
> universal appeal in doing things otherwise, I can go with that choice. 

IIRC your RFE [2] was about icons for suspend, hibernate ans switch
users but not about the basic panel layout.

> Notifying upstream is a good idea nevertheless. The current upstream 
> default seems more reminiscent of their CDE look alike legacy rather 
> than anything to do with usability.

As current screenshots of Xfce 4.6 [3] basically still show the same
layout there seems to be agreement about this among the Xfce developers.
So if somebody thinks that the current layout has nothing to do with
usability IMO he really should push this discussion upstream.

> 
> Rahul

Regards,
Christoph

[1] e.g.
http://cwickert.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/xfce-gnome-like-panel.png
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433150
[3] http://marktmisc.blogspot.com/2008/09/xfce-trunk.html



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